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In general...
...Thinking Education = University; Practical Job and Career = College. Society needs both, but in varying proportions over time. The person in the article chose to be educated for politics - so she should do what politicians do: run for office, get elected somewhere and start changing the world.

Demographics may eliminate enough positions to force companies to hire, but don't count on it. Capitalism is a tsunami you have to ride, not fight against. When many leave the workforce, those positions are eliminated in the name of "efficiency". Humans are an expense on any balance sheet, not an asset. So see a need, fill a need. Become an expert at eliminating those expenses. Become a Professional Downsizing Consultant ("System Analyst", "Business Analyst" "Lean Six Sigma Process Analyst", etc.). Or a welder. You'll be busy enough then.

— Neutral Observer

Posted by BC Election 2013
The entire concept...
...of putting kids in the trades had better be defined to the specific trade. Wages as a carpenter have not moved anywhere in over twenty five years. Benefits? Good luck. Steady employment? You better be prepared to follow the work around the country. First ones to be laid off? Higher end of the wage spectrum. Want a loan or mortgage? You sit at the bottom of the approval rate.

I wish somebody would tell the kids that jobs are NOT guaranteed in construction. Wages are all over the map as well, especially in the civil trades AND your body is not a machine — it will break down. Furthermore, you are always working yourself out of a job. Construction must be completed and the next posting determined by many factors well out of your control. De-certification of a large number of trades allows people with no qualifications to frame your house.

If I were a kid going into the trades I advise them to talk to an old wrinkly like me. Nevermind the propaganda, I have lived the path.

— TQ Carpenter
Posted by BC Election 2013
When I went to university
When I went to university — and I don't think it was any different before I went nor has it changed since — a degree in education or poly sci is what you did if you could not get into law, engineering, business or medicine faculties. Everyone on campus knew there are no jobs in 'political science' — it is a liberal arts degree and everyone knew that a BEd degree meant waiting years to work as a teacher (but worth it to work 100 days a year and get a full pension). Have you ever seen a job ad that said "Wanted for great job — must have International Studies degree with Political Science major" — and I mean EVER? And truth is you NEVER will!

Why should the government be blamed for people's choices?

— Omoishiroi
Posted by BC Election 2013
Interesting and true
The article in the Sunday Province was very interesting and very true. People that are between 18 and 65 years old have a problem finding jobs that pay a living wage, even if some manage to get one of the lower-paying government jobs.

I know of several people who are over 50 years old who are considering changing their names so they can at least get an interview with the Human Resources people who don’t even let them know the job has been filled or anything else. They are just being ignored and don’t even get to talk or see any of these “Gods” of the job world even if they have good education and experience.

Since the 1980’s when companies began putting people out to pasture once they were between 45 and 50 years old there has been a problem. Young people think that this is just their problem but in the past people worked for at least 10 years at low pay when they were young and were just getting to the point where they were making a fairly good wage — when “POOF” they were kicked out of the workforce because they were considered obsolete. 

Younger people cost companies less because they can pay them a lower wage and they have a lower holiday pay rate. As soon as they get some seniority and the benefits seem too high the companies get rid of them and hire even-younger people at even-lower wages. Now some companies are forcing their staff to train imported foreign workers who then go back to their own countries and do the same job online and some are just hiring imported workers at a cheap wage and getting rid of Canadian workers — so even the lower-paid Canadian workers are being replaced.
 
All companies and corporations that hire imported labour (from pickers to office workers) should have their names printed in all newspapers and on a website so other Canadians can choose not to do any business with these companies if they do not agree with this policy.  And all shareholders of these corporations should be ashamed that they are ruining Canada.

— Patellen, via email
Have a Plan A, B, C, D...
As a stepparent, I have two kids in their teens. One is now 17 and I have always been telling them to follow their passion but be realistic as well. Do your research, look around, see if there is a market or a growing market for those types of skills. Whether it is here or outside of Canada. Make sure it is something you really want to do and can stick with it. Do the legwork. And always have plan a, plan b and plan c if one of your plans does not work out.

— Frustrated in Richmond
Real world skills before demands
If you are unwilling to leave the Vancouver area you are out of luck. You have ALLOWED all the asian countries to buy up the lower mainland and now you are priced out of living there. There are jobs in BC. Lots of them. Just ask any of these kids if they want to move north. Not a chance right! Well that is where the jobs are. Stop getting degrees in fields where there is little chance of getting a job. When the oil and gas industry want to make new jobs the Vancouver and Vancouver Island residents scream bloody blue murder. Where exactly do you think the jobs come from. Government can't make jobs, industry does. You can't have it all. Young people need to start at the bottom and learn some actual real world skills before they can DEMAND to live wherever they want.

— EinD
Dismal wages
I have training and education in sheet metal and warehousing. This summer I, again, will be working in Saskatchewan. The wages in B.C. are dismal. Most companies I have worked for as an apprentice are only interested in cheap labour and not employee advancement. It seems that after sooo many years of pro-business government, the only way to survival is to own a business. Workers, especially the middle-class, are becoming poorer while business recovers from the economic slow down. There isn't a shortage of skilled workers in this province. There are a pile of 1st and 2nd year apprentices who have given up or can't afford to continue their choice of profession because of horrible wages and high costs of living. Lack of wealth distribution is killing trades development in B.C.

— Working truth
Where am I supposed to find a job?

Paige MacKenzie, 26, did exactly what she was told. She went to university. She got top grades. She volunteered. And she completed a professional internship at a reputable institution related to her field of study.

Yet, almost a full year after graduating from Simon Fraser University, with a BA in international studies and a minor in political science, she’s having a tough time landing a job.

Taxes too low on businesses?
Taxes too low on businesses? Hmm, you think raising taxes are going to create jobs ?

You know, I lived in Vancouver for 10 years and I never once had a moment when I was unemployed or unable to find work. Yes I'm not 60+ or a teenager but I have
always had work, labour, cooking, dishwasher, high rise window washer, bar jobs. It's not every ones dream job, but its better having a job rather then holding out for something your not going to have. Everyone has big expectations on what their willing to do. Even when I held my lower paid jobs I managed to pay rent, eat food and party.

— Pat Smith
Posted by BC Election 2013
You mean Christy Clark...
...and the Liberals' B.C. Jobs plan isn't working after spending those millions of taxpayer dollars? HD mining may have a opening... err, NO they bring their own workers from China. Hmm maybe the construction industry... err, NO B.C. Liberals are allowing Irish immigrants and other foreign laborers to do the jobs Canadians can do but for 15% less the wage. You're best bet would be to get a job with those f---ing us the BANKS or police force or join a political party..................

— Steve Brown
Posted by BC Election 2013
From electrician to Starbucks
My son went for trades training in electrical, one day his work site was shut by WorkSafe BC as his company had 24 first and second years working with 3 journey men. Guess what: this company doesn't employ any third or fourth years, and it's very hard for a third year to find a new job to finish their training. So after paying for 3 years of school, my son started a career at Starbucks after being out of work for a year.

— Michael Mann
There's a simple answer
It's a very simple answer. Private wealth creation is being destroyed by the high taxes & overabundance of highly paid government jobs at all levels. As long as public servants are paid higher salaries & benefits than the private sector, unemployment will be high. And, to top it off, the threat of another NDP government in B.C. means anybody with any brains will not open a new business here — in fact, the best thing to do would be to sell out and get out as fast as possible. The unions need to be broken, especially all public sector onions, including the teachers' union. All they continue to do is hold our kids hostage until us poor sucker taxpayers give in to their demands.

— BoJoeFitz
University grads out of luck

There's no jobs in law right now either, that's for sure. I'll tell a story here that illustrates the problem today's grads are having.

When I got accepted into UBC Law back in 2007, things were still going really well with the economy. The Olympics were coming up, Vancouver was the place to be. I remember that one of the big downtown firms invited some of us first-year students to their offices for a tour and promotional sort of deal, there was complementary smoked salmon and drinks, it was really classy. Of course we all remember what happened between 2007 and 2009, Lehman Bros. and all that. Well, the next year they weren't even giving the tour at all, never mind the smoked salmon. I stuck it out and graduated in 2010, but could not find a proper job in my field. I got work on a contract with the B.C. Government, because of the hiring freeze the job was only for a few months. Since then I've bounced around from job to job, none of them have required my level of qualifications or paid a wage that would come anywhere close to recouping what I spent on my education.

I hate to say it, but I would have been better off if I'd taken the path of one of my High School friends, who was expelled for smoking dope, got a job as a roofer, and worked his way up to a top spot in his dad's friend's contracting company. What does that say about where we're at here in this province? Oh and don't bother trying to go through the BC Jobs Plan office if you're looking for work, waste of bloody time.


— Pete
Everyone is Alberta-bound
The figures for unemployment and underemployment for youth don't take into account the exodus of our young people to Alberta. Whole secondary school graduating classes from small towns are still going east, both to attend university and to get work. A lot of them would love to come home, but there is no work for them to come home to.

— SD
Making sacrifices
My niece graduated from SFU with a teaching degree 3 years ago. Her first year post grad was difficult and she did a lot of tutoring. The following year she accepted a full time teaching position with a private school here in the Lower Mainland. She is just completing her second year with that school now. It may not provide her with the nice pension she'd get working in a school district, but she is using her degree and has even managed to buy a small condo. At 25 she is independent and moving forward with her life.

— Dianeeoh
Dumbing down jobs
Having a family can be hard to support in our minimum wage society, but this is talking about unemployment and not cost of living or life choices with family and kids, as a unemployment standpoint.

Lots of jobs available if your willing to do them. But the wage in B.C. is too low for most jobs available for raising families. And thus the reason why me and my wife have not started our extended family .

Also in this story they talk about people who are over qualified for a position there applying for. I disagree with this. I know people who have had this happen to them, even my wife was passed over for a higher paying job because she's too smart. I think this is discrimination and should be illegal.

If the government wants to make change they should be passing a law that no one is ever "over qualified" for a position that someone is applying for. This is no different then selecting your employees based on your preferred race .

No one should have to "dummy down" to get a job.

— Pat Smith
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